Comments on: Alcatraz Versus the Evil Librarians http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/ Active Voice for Active Readers Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:45:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.2 By: Ingrid http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-764 Ingrid Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:34:53 +0000 http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-764 ... Suddenly, every book I have ever read ever looks so, so much better. Thank you for reading this so I never have to. … Suddenly, every book I have ever read ever looks so, so much better. Thank you for reading this so I never have to.

]]> By: Ruth http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-791 Ruth Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:55:10 +0000 http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-791 I agree with Ingrid. Enjoyed your articulate rant. Won't buy it! I agree with Ingrid.
Enjoyed your articulate rant.
Won’t buy it!

]]> By: Kristi http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-7131 Kristi Sat, 24 May 2008 15:25:48 +0000 http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-7131 Loved your review. I've been curious about reading the book, actually, but now I feel like I shouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. Thank you for saving me from such horrors! Loved your review. I’ve been curious about reading the book, actually, but now I feel like I shouldn’t touch it with a ten-foot pole. Thank you for saving me from such horrors!

]]> By: Nikki http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-8415 Nikki Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:59:03 +0000 http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-8415 I don't know if I'll read this book because I'm not into Harry Potter or Harry Potter-ish stories but I feel that I have to say something about one of your biggest problems with the book: There is nothing wrong with putting creationism in a book or not believing in evolution. Many people (myself included) believe that the world was planned and created by God. And it is a valid belief. If you actually look at all the data, there is a lot a good evidence against evolution and not very much (if any) for it. I'm guessing you learned all about evolution in school but there are lots of good books about science that supports creation. A couple of authors I know about are Michael Denton and Dr. Jay L. Wile (I like his books), and there is Dr. Wile's website www.apologia.com (I've never been there but it supposedly has links to information about evolution and creation), and there are videos and DVDs by Dr. Hovind (I hope I spelled his name right) which you might be able to get from the library, I don't know. Not that you have to look at any of this stuff but to call oneself well-informed on a subject, especially a controversial subject like this, one should study both sides of it, right? I don’t know if I’ll read this book because I’m not into Harry Potter or Harry Potter-ish stories but I feel that I have to say something about one of your biggest problems with the book: There is nothing wrong with putting creationism in a book or not believing in evolution. Many people (myself included) believe that the world was planned and created by God. And it is a valid belief. If you actually look at all the data, there is a lot a good evidence against evolution and not very much (if any) for it. I’m guessing you learned all about evolution in school but there are lots of good books about science that supports creation. A couple of authors I know about are Michael Denton and Dr. Jay L. Wile (I like his books), and there is Dr. Wile’s website www.apologia.com (I’ve never been there but it supposedly has links to information about evolution and creation), and there are videos and DVDs by Dr. Hovind (I hope I spelled his name right) which you might be able to get from the library, I don’t know. Not that you have to look at any of this stuff but to call oneself well-informed on a subject, especially a controversial subject like this, one should study both sides of it, right?

]]> By: Rebecca http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-8420 Rebecca Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:03:50 +0000 http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-8420 Nikki – There are a couple things about your comment I’d like to address. First, I <i>have</i> seen several creationist videos, and am from a very creationist-friendly town. I’m fairly familiar with it; I just disagree with it. Evidence-wise, I don’t think this is the place for that debate, but it seems to me that what it comes down to in the end is what you consider acceptable as evidence, research methodologies, etc. Based on my standards, I have not see anything to convince me of creationism, and have seen plenty for evolution. Second, a point I did not dwell on in the review, is that I was annoyed in part because of the way it was presented: not only was it insidious, but it was very much an attitude of, “Ha, ha, people who accept evolution were duped!” I would find that irritating regardless of what philosophy it supported. Nikki – There are a couple things about your comment I’d like to address. First, I have seen several creationist videos, and am from a very creationist-friendly town. I’m fairly familiar with it; I just disagree with it. Evidence-wise, I don’t think this is the place for that debate, but it seems to me that what it comes down to in the end is what you consider acceptable as evidence, research methodologies, etc. Based on my standards, I have not see anything to convince me of creationism, and have seen plenty for evolution.

Second, a point I did not dwell on in the review, is that I was annoyed in part because of the way it was presented: not only was it insidious, but it was very much an attitude of, “Ha, ha, people who accept evolution were duped!” I would find that irritating regardless of what philosophy it supported.

]]> By: Nikki http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-8647 Nikki Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:54:41 +0000 http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-8647 You're right, Rebecca. It's annoying when a book sort of mocks people who think something different than what the author believes. That's one reason I don't like alot of books with an evolutionist point of view, they often make fun of creationists. And I don't find it very appealing when I find it in creationist books either. The thing is, no offense, you probably didn't mean to, but your review seemed kind of insensitive to the creationist point of view. Please don't be angry at me for saying so. You’re right, Rebecca. It’s annoying when a book sort of mocks people who think something different than what the author believes. That’s one reason I don’t like alot of books with an evolutionist point of view, they often make fun of creationists. And I don’t find it very appealing when I find it in creationist books either. The thing is, no offense, you probably didn’t mean to, but your review seemed kind of insensitive to the creationist point of view. Please don’t be angry at me for saying so.

]]> By: Nikki http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-8981 Nikki Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:27:28 +0000 http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-8981 Perhaps "insensitive" wasn't the right way to describe it. You just seemed very angry at the thought that anyone would believe in creation (perhaps it wouldn't have seemed so much that way if you HAD dwelled on how the presention of it annoyed you, rather than the idea of it). Not to sound pushy, but if you have any interest in this kind of stuff, I would still encourage you to read Dr. Wiles books, if you can find them at the library or get them cheap somewhere. They're conversational and fun to read, and the evidence in them for creation might be different and/or better than what you saw in those videos. Perhaps “insensitive” wasn’t the right way to describe it. You just seemed very angry at the thought that anyone would believe in creation (perhaps it wouldn’t have seemed so much that way if you HAD dwelled on how the presention of it annoyed you, rather than the idea of it).
Not to sound pushy, but if you have any interest in this kind of stuff, I would still encourage you to read Dr. Wiles books, if you can find them at the library or get them cheap somewhere. They’re conversational and fun to read, and the evidence in them for creation might be different and/or better than what you saw in those videos.

]]> By: Rebecca http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-8983 Rebecca Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:59:41 +0000 http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-8983 Not interested, but thanks anyway! Not interested, but thanks anyway!

]]> By: Nikki http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-9061 Nikki Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:31:07 +0000 http://www.active-voice.net/2008/02/17/alcatraz-versus-the-evil-librarians/#comment-9061 Yeah. You're welcome! Yeah. You’re welcome!

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